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John Kelly’s Outgoing Interview — Trump’s Wall Stopped Being A “Wall” A Long Time Ago

General John Kelly, Outgoing White House Chief of Staff, gave an extensive exit interview to the LA Times and spoke on several issues including Trump’s border wall.

Kelly says that Trump‘s “wall” stopped being a “wall,” a long time ago.

According to the LA Times, Kelly talked to Customs and Border Protection agents when he first served as head of Homeland Security regarding border security. “They said, ‘Well we need a physical barrier in certain places, we need technology across the board, and we need more people,’” Kelly said.

Kelly leaves as Trump has been cocooned in the White House as a partial government shutdown moves into a second week over his demands for $5 billion for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.

The president has responded by firing off angry tweets at Democrats, who refuse to provide more than $1.3 billion for border security, rather than seeking to negotiate a solution.

The stalemate also highlights the distance, at least in language, between Kelly and Trump over the president’s signature promise — to build a wall.

“To be honest, it’s not a wall,” Kelly said.

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When Kelly led Homeland Security in early 2017, one of his first steps was to seek advice from those who “actually secure the border,” Customs and Border Protection agents who Kelly calls “salt-of-the-earth, Joe-Six-Pack folks.”

“They said, ‘Well we need a physical barrier in certain places, we need technology across the board, and we need more people,’” he said.

“The president still says ‘wall’ — oftentimes frankly he’ll say ‘barrier’ or ‘fencing,’ now he’s tended toward steel slats. But we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration, when we asked people what they needed and where they needed it.”

Read the interview here.

A ‘wall’ is something everyone understands, and it’s an easy branding. Trump ‘brands’ things and talks generally, yet from the start, it’s been known and stated, there are some area’s there won’t need to be a wall due to mountainous terrain and other ‘natural’ borders.

Some will need the actual wall, some will not, some will need drone surveillance or physically.

More importantly, lets heavily fine businesses that hire illegals. Those who overstay their visa should be visited, taken to the airport or arrested. The choice is theirs. We should fine their countries and send all the children, families and singles back. All who are seeking asylum should do it outside the US. No government assistance is given to them even if they give birth in this country.

If an American citizen, a parent can take them back home or have them placed for adoption. Do not give them schooling, only basic medical attention, and no recreation.

They have broken the law. Let’s treat them like criminals. They should be charged as felons. No arrest and release. No DACA. These ppl benefited from their illegal status and should be deported immediately. Those with green cards have two years to either become citizens or green card becomes null and void, and then they should be deported.

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