Last week, we reported that Ellen DeGeneres was ending her show after nineteen seasons. Now, a former producer who was fired from the show is speaking out to back up reports from last summer that claimed that DeGeneres tolerated a toxic workplace on the set of the program.

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Hedda Muskat, who joined “The Ellen DeGeneres Show” back in 2003 as a producer tasked with booking human-interest guests, went on Australian Channel 7’s “Sunrise” to celebrate the fact that the talk show is ending. She also slammed DeGeneres for duping fans into thinking that she is a “nice person.”

“The viewers have spoken. Her ratings have been in the toilet for a long, long time now, her show has not been fun, it has not been interesting,” Muskat said. “And she is not really, by the way, stepping down, the viewers fired her.”

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When asked if DeGeneres’ downfall surprised her, Muskat emphatically replied, “Not a shock at all. I think the viewers are disappointed in the phoniness she’s been projecting as this ‘nice person.’ So I feel that the viewers feel duped, in a way, that she’s not this nice person. The viewers are not going to put up with the backstage racism that goes on and the backstage bullying that goes on. So I think the viewers have woken up, finally.”

Not stopping there, Muskat claimed that DeGeneres isn’t capable of connecting with “real” people and that she would rather kiss up to A-list celebrities instead.

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“She loved kissing a** with all the celebrities and she really was not in a position to interview real people because she really couldn’t carry a conversation with them,” she said.

Muskat also talked about DeGeneres’ upcoming interview with Oprah, in which she’s set to discuss ending her talk show.

“I am very disappointed that Oprah is lowering herself to interview Ellen,” Muskat said. “Oprah can interview kings and queens and I watch and love Oprah and I miss her and for her to interview Ellen, it’s like why? Who cares about Ellen anymore?”

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Muskat went on to add that she knows there were “over 100 employees over 19 years” that “walked away with a sickened feeling about working there.”

“As much as I loved my job as a booker and producer, I was almost relieved when I got fired… I wanted to take a shower, it was like a whole new dawn,” she said. “I don’t feel like she has the trust anymore of the viewers, and so I don’t think she is going to come back anytime soon.”

When asked what DeGeneres should do next in her career, Muskat slyly said, “work with animals.”

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“I’d like to see her work on a farm where she can relate with all of the animals, and the pets and the dogs and the cows and the pigs,” she added.

Check out the full interview below.

This piece originally appeared in UpliftingToday.com and is used by permission.

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