Former First Lady Michelle Obama just spoke out to reveal that she’s had “tough times” with her daughters Malia and Sasha.

On a recent episode of “The Michelle Obama Podcast,” Michelle opened up about her first few years of parenthood and how it affected her relationship with her husband, former President Barack Obama.

“The first tough years [in her marriage] came with kids. I had infertility issues, I was ready, I wanted kids, I worked hard for them, we were mature, we had been together for four or five years before, so we had a wonderful amount of time together which was helpful,” Michelle said, according to Hello Magazine. “But even with all of that, when these little people arrived and the whole process of pregnancy, conception, delivery and then they are there.”

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“That can suck the life out of all of that hard work and all of that wisdom,” she added. “It’s hard to get ready for the wonderful joyfulness that is having children. They are amazing and I would not trade them in, but they can mess up a marriage.”

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This comes after Michelle got candid about difficult times that she had in her marriage to Obama.

“There were times that I wanted to push Barack out of the window. And I say that because it’s like, you’ve got to know the feelings will be intense. But that doesn’t mean you quit,” she said. “And these periods can last a long time. They can last years.”

Michelle also advised her listeners to go about finding a partner as if you’re assembling an all-star basketball team, and that a person should ideally pick the absolute best person to be with.

“You want LeBron [James]. You don’t want the guy, third row on the bench, who didn’t make the team, but we often don’t think about that,” she said. “What you’re supposed to say is, ‘I have married LeBron. My version of LeBron.’”

Michelle then talked about how important it is to give yourself time to see the person you’re dating “in an array of situations.”

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“There’s no magic way to make that happen except getting the basics of finding somebody, being honest about wanting to be with them, to date them seriously, to plan on making a commitment, to date them, seeing where it goes, and then making it happen,” she said. “You can’t Tinder your way into a long-term relationship.”

 

This piece originally appeared in UpliftingToday.com and is used by permission.

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